how did george w. bush do? >> he got 44%. and but you know, he had a real -- actually, for people -- people forget. he had a pretty forward-looking view on immigration reform. it was a different kind of republicanism. he governed in one way but politically, he understood that he needed to modernize the party. so he had a forward-looking view and it appealed to hispanic voters and said look, we need a path to citizenship. we need to have comprehensive immigration reform. you really can't say that as a major republican leader these days but he did and it worked out and did he quite well. >> john: did his knowledge of espanol help him at all? >> i think maybe a little bit. coming from texas and having that history being governor of texas where you know, obviously a large latino population and if you want to do well there you know, even if you're not pulling the majority of latinos, you can't ignore their issues. and be successful in the state for as long as he was. >> john: not until you're elected. >> they did one thing when th